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    Posted on May 12th, 2009 ravensait 3 comments

    Minutes of the first meeting of Save Raven’s Ait

    In attendance:

    Pete Phoenix
    Nick Revolving
    Around 20 Students from Kingston University
    Several members of the public

    Introduction to current situation by Phoenix. Action by
    Made audience aware of the propaganda contained in newspaper
    articles and the need to correct by writing to the press
    i.e. the serious libel in regard to electricity quoted as being £15,000 and the
    bad press in The Sun, who were not invited to the island but used existing media
    coverage information for their story, consideration of taking them to court.
    Discussion of offer of paying up to £1,000 – even this is high, a one bedroom
    Flat uses approx £25.00 per month. Sunken boat was the rubbish boat owned/used
    previous land owners, nothing to do with Save Raven’s Ait Team.
    Attendees asked to contact local MP’s/papers etc to keep the island in the public’s
    conscience. Use website to communicate these issues Phoenix/Nick/Charlie

    Outline of the discussions with Chris Wintle of Ecotricity, who
    are very interested in installing a 2 megawatt windmill and could cover the
    roofs in solar panels –this would help to develop the island into being
    self-sufficient with a view to selling back to the grid. Taking this collaboration
    forward should be investigated further, Phoenix/Rin to keep in touch with Chris.
    Discuss possible ideas; such as Ecotricity buying island and bringing in Save Raven’s Ait
    team to manage the community section – Team would network to encourage locals to
    sign up to Ecotricity – £25.00 per person signing up to team. Ask Ecotricity to submit
    this offer in writing. Phoenix/Rin

    Phoenix continues to outline other options; bike/wind-up power – all sustainable
    and alternative options for energy provision – hydro.

    This is common land, owned by the people, point raised about issue of
    purchasing the island if it is common land, though it is recognised that there is
    a value that is given by Kingston Council – accurate amount to be ascertained, as well
    a pursuing common land/law issues, even if to High Court. Phoenix/Nick

    Ex-Kingston councillor outlines the purpose of the meeting; to discuss proposals
    for island, to form a steering committee and other suggestions. Steering committee
    should be formed by around 12 people. Keep working on strengthening proposal. Nick/Phoenix
    Minutes sent on to those who have put their names on the email list, though could
    be posted on facebook or website. Charlie/Nick
    Nick outlines the need to seek changes around ourselves, and immediate environment,
    our own ‘backyard’ – the set up of Raven’s Ait being an example of what can be achieved
    in a short space of time, imagine what can be achieved with more time. Around 3,000
    visitors in 9 weeks (300 per week). Nick outlines the passion that Raven’s Ait has unleashed
    and how it can become a beacon to other communities. Overcoming differences – a squat
    to a community centre – powered by own energy, feeding its passengers and providing a
    space for people to meet, share, learn and experience things. The call for more people to
    come on board . The future is not set, sharing of ideas, and start of a shared future vision
    for one and all. Invitation for all to write on the ‘wall’, comments will be reviewed and
    developed Nick
    Will – Kingston Uni architect – working with communities to achieve their vision – shows
    representation of possibilities with Raven’s Ait. Kingston Borough Council riverside project
    aiming to enhance the attraction of borough’s riverside – opportunities for
    non-boat owning community, visitor moorings, general improvement to riverside which
    Raven’s Ait sits very well within this vision of the council. Thames Landscape Strategy work
    very closely with Kingston Council with emphasis on community action, committed to
    increasing education access within the Thames environment. The island – creation of
    more visual space where you meet the island – greater glazing to bring in both river banks
    into the island. Central space for learning/workshops/bookshop/ local knowledge archivesetc .
    Leisure side (left) youth/event spaces, cinema, veg garden, cafe, theatre, music. Right side
    Kingston end – more practical environmental project –showcase – space – access to
    first floor workshops – which are very revenue successful. Moorings opportunities
    – residential – commercial – leisure – boat hire and community boating. The island offers
    the opportunity for skills sharing between business and professionals, local institutions and
    the community. The need for sustainability is a key concern – it could be seen as a place
    of exchange – skill sharing – providing a single space for council, university, business and
    community to come together – and a pioneering place for the borough of Kingston.

    Meeting breaks for writing on the wall and workgroups who are given a topic each.
    Set up account asap via steering group so money can be raised – any monies donated
    should island project not proceed money would be donated to local community for
    use as they wish – to be discussed and voted on as things develop Nick/Phoenix
    The meeting demonstrated the need for greater development of community cohesion – it may be that the Uni students would be interested in organising local awareness campaigns – how else can this be achieved? How to get the word around and gather more support. Gum Tree – in-house website – networking
    Have a Save Raven’s Ait stall in town one day with visuals – petition for signing – proposal and other publicity about the proposal- arrange meeting with Twickenham Riverside group? Who have been campaigning against Richmond Council in regard to the council’s proposed private development of the old Twickenham Swimming baths site, they may have useful information to share.
    Post proposal onto website for viewing to gain more support, get feedback to develop it from a community perspective, try to get it published in local paper, or outline of the plan, find out if it can be placed in Kingston Green Centre with the visuals of how the island could look and be as drawn by Will, along with a petition paper – heading needs to be created for a petition.
    Have stalls at local summer events/school fetes/ arrange to go into schools to do talks?
    If a petition signed by 10k people is submitted to Government the matter must be addressed by the House of Commons.
    Clarify the Hansard ruling – add this onto the website for easy viewing.
    Identify and develop relationships with local businesses that may offer support, John Lewis, Waitrose (very green), Bentalls, and other local businesses. – who is going to do this? How? When by?

    Meeting thrown open to the floor – no questions though Piers made a very valid comment but I don’t have a record of it
    Next meeting planned for 3 weeks – sometime around end May – Nick to organise and inform everyone on email list – everyone to network it.
    Results from workgroups/brainstorming session
    Funding – adopt a piece of the island/airspace to raise funds – how much is island? What is projected cost of purchasing? Running
    Check out internet fundraising options such as Everyclick and Wisdom Trust
    Patronage from local or environmental celebs; David Attenborough – Bianca Jagger –
    Zac Goldsmith – Jamie Oliver (film production company) – Radiohead .
    Grants and funding from Arts Council – Surrey County policy/Mason – Vegan/Vegetarian cafe – rotary local/international – though it was recognised that none of this can be done without the set up of either a charity or community bank account.
    Local business – work with Kingston Green centre/Green fair organisers to develop these contacts
    The island vision
    Inside
    book club discussion group juggling circus skills eco centre traditional craft sat cinema club roller disco workshops for food skills/share – music studio – spiritual awareness workshop – youth centre – tea dances – bingo – knitting circle – elders – freeman law centre- chess group-any community use
    Outside
    school trips/sensory garden/roof garden – sliding pontoon for additional space– camping – community
    Swimming pool – non-chlorine – river tours – greenhouse – outdoor kitchen – earthships
    Renewable stage – open team building space – outdoor art

     

    3 responses to “Minutes for first meeting to Save Ravens Ait 8/5/09”

    1. Just popped by to say well done everyone, and sorry I never made it. This campaign is a really, really good idea. I am glad that you haven’t given up because there is milage in it, considering the ever mounting cost to the tax payer of security, the lack of a decent plan to take the place forward from anywhere else.

      You are all really good at publicity and able to focus a plan.

      Maybe this helps from Hazel Blears.

      More power to you all XX Dave

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